of the Rivendell Bicycle Works Owner's Bunch Mailing List
September 2008 - #6
"bi-monthly" report got back-burnered this past summer, and in
the meantime, the list has continue to grow. We've added more
than 140 new members since the last SOTL message. (And that's
not including the enterprising spammers who get banned with their
first moderated post. Runs about 1 out of 10, if you're keeping
of the newer members have joined the discussions and I appreciate
the thoughtful tone which folks have brought to the table. As
I've said before, this list will really only remain viable to
the extent that it differs from most of what passes for "discussions"
on the internet.
increase in size does cause a slight concern, of course. As we
grow, each person becomes slightly less well-known, the byproduct
of a larger society. It seems that it's often easy to reply flippantly
or in a less supportive tone. With over 700 people on the list,
we've really matured. With that maturity comes responsibility
- in this case the responsibility to keep things respectful and
focused upon the topic of the list.
do want to state clearly that these thoughts are not in reaction
to anything that has occurred on the list so far. As I've said
before, my feeling is that it's easier to keep the goals and stated
purpose of this list clearly stated, rather than try to wrangle
errant strays all the time. Oh, and I'm not trying to imply that
we're some herd.
probably more than enough said on that topic - I don't want to
belabor the point and I'd rather just get this posted and back
to more regular SOTL reports.
as always, thanks again for contributing to or simply enjoying
Projects and Features
you missed the mention on the Rivbike website, it sounds like
RBW Reader is set to go to a pdf/online distribution model with
RR#41. For those of us who spend too much time in front of monitors
and tend to be hoarding little packrats of back issues (um, that'd
be me), they will be publishing a paper version, available for
order when the online version appears.
I'm very happy that the Reader is continuing in any form. When
#40 arrived in all its oversized goodness, I had this funny feeling
of finality. It must have been caused by the steady announcemnt
over the past year that the Reader would _not_ be a perk of membership.
It would have been easy to say, "hey, 40's a good number. Let's
pull the plug."
of the things I've done over the years is put out catalogs and
newsletters. Deadlines come hard and fast, and it is a draining
effort to get those things out to the printers, over to the mailing
house and out to the readership. Add running the business to that
- one that is in and of itself reasonably complex, and I think
we're lucky for any we get.
wrangled together a few more Rivendell model-specific pages. There
are a few more things to scan in terms of background announcements
and updates, but the basic framing has been put up. I'll announce
major updates to the list, and put them here as well:
behind-the-scenes format type thing that I did was to create specific
directories for each model - so, rather than typing in:
can type in:
kind of a minor thing, but that way you won't have to try to remember
whether the pages were ".htm", ".html" or some other such suffix.
And, if you have old links to the original model pages which ended
in ".html", those will simply redirect to the new pages, so you
don't need to worry about changing your links or bookmarks.
we now have:
Atlantis - http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/atlantis
Bleriot - http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/bleriot
Bombadil - http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/bombadil
Hilsen - http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/hilsen
Quickbeam - http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/quickbeam
Rambouillet - http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/rambouillet
Romulus & Redwood - http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/romulus
have pulled together flyers, tidbits and scans, as well as aggregated
all the Gallery listings for those models.
Request for materials -
The only thing I thought I had but can't seem to find is a flyer
specific to the Redwood - It may have been a Reader or Catalog
thing, but if anyone has a separate Redwood (or Romulus...or even
any other model listed above) flyer that doesn't appear, please
contact me - a scan would be appreciated, or you can mail it and
I'll return it to you.
do have flyers for Rivendell (custom) Frames and the color "poster-type"
insert which was included with that.
in the "to-do" stage is a Saluki page, but I've only seen (and
currently have) a pdf of that flyer. Did anyone ever see a Glorius/Wilbury
flyer, other than the Reader annoucements?
if anyone has early bicycle-only flyers from the Pre-RR#24 days,
please contact me.
General Topics (From Previous Issues)
Broader technical questions and non-Riv stuff are well covered
by the iBob list, the 650B list and others hosted by alex wetmore
on bikelist.org - http://www.bikelist.org
- This is also where you can find the pre-March '07 archives to
the RBW list. Peter White runs the "Bicycle Lifestyle" google
group, which is here - http://groups.google.com/group/bicyclelifestyle
Resources get put onto the RBW-Owners-Bunch pages here:
Most are either mirrored or enhanced here: http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw
The Official RBW Gallery is on Flickr -
Of course, my feelings get hurt if you don't send photos to the
Current Classics (or other) Galleries ;^) http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc
Our FAQ continues to exist! The FAQ has one Q which was A'd enough.
Posts from new members (or old members changing their email) are
moderated. So, it means that if someone joins, their first messages
will have to get my (or an acting list admin's) OK before being
sent to everyone. If you want to bypass this or speed it up a
bit, send me an email so I know you aren't a spammer.
Posts to the list are by default distributed to everyone. That
means if you wish to make a private comment, you need to change
the "TO:" information. It's also easy to make that mistake, so
please don't jump on folks who do so.
- Bug reports for the Rivendell website should be sent to firstname.lastname@example.org
should include the browser, system and specific issue in the email.
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I'd be more than happy to continue the discussion on any of the
topics mentioned above, but in the interest of clarity, it might
make sense to either email me directly or to create a new topic
thread specific to your comment.
again for your contributions and enjoyment of the list.
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